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  More new changes - 30 min public talks

  by The Lone Ranger in

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  2. friends

  i'm not sure if this is old news to you guys but i just heard that the wts is now giving 30mins public talks instead of 45mins public talks.

  this new arrangement is starting on jan 2008. i think the wts has seen that the r&f has had enought of all these meetings and is trying to wind them down without it looking like they are giving in.

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  I told my wife about the new arrangement and she told me that she doesn't want to hear anything

  that comes from apostate web sites.
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  Need a good question to ask a JW at work

  by claytoncapeletti in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you had to pick the best question that would disprove a scared jw belief what would it be?

  i am not looking to debate the meaning of a scripture vs. a different scripture, rather i am looking for one of their beliefs that science and or history can totally dispute.

  i may only be able to ask one question and there is a good chance that it will end up back to the elders.

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  Why can the Witnesses have big baby shower parties for pregnant Sisters, where

  there is cake, ice cream, and other foods and plenty of nice presents for the unborn

  baby. Everyone is looking forward to the birthday of the baby. Now the baby is born

  and they can't acknowledge the birthday of the baby a year later with cake, ice cream

  and gifts for the baby.

  Go figure.
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  Older people in churches versus older people at the Kingdom Hall

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on a recent post the poster yadayadda made a comment about the subject that really got me thinking.. i recently attended a "worldly" wedding where there were alot of older people who attend those "pagan".

  churches.

  it was so good to see how happy they were.

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  On a recent post the poster YADAYADDA made a comment about the subject that really got me thinking.

  I recently attended a "worldly" wedding where there were alot of older people who attend those "pagan"

  churches. It was so good to see how happy they were. Their eyes were bright, their smiles were genuine.

  You could tell that they lived a satisfied life of helping people thru charities and their families were so loving and caring.

  These older ones did not fear death and no doubt have prepared for their golden years all throughout their life.

  The Witnesses are taught and believe that they only have true happiness. They need to be around "worldly"

  people, who have faith in God to see what it is really like to be happy,

  What a contrast to the older ones at the Hall that I go to. They are depressed and dependent on their

  families for financial support. All they talk about is how close the end has got to be. The Witnesses solution to people

  who needed help is to sell them a Watchtower or Awake magazine so that they can have the hope of living

  forever as they starve to death, or freeze to death to get to the paradise earth thur the resurectiion..

  I appreicate all of the great posters here at this site. The highlight of my day is reading all of the new threads.

  Take care.
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  Friendly talk with a couple of elders

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last week i received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality.

  and lack of progress.

  i said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years.

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  Last week I received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality

  and lack of progress. I told them my story which goes back before 1975 when I was as elder and was

  told by other elders that I need to get on the band wagon and start believing and teaching the 1975 doctrine.

  I told the two visiting elders that I feel like I have been lied too. I was told that I would not graduate from

  High School which was in the 1960's. Then I was told to believe that the end was coming in 1975 and

  that I would never get old in this old system. The elders told me that the Bible teaches a sense of urgency.

  I said that the last verse of Revelation that Jesus said that he was coming "quickly" and that was 2,000 years

  ago. I can see the benefit of believing in the sense of urgency however that is differrent than saying that

  I will not get old in this old system. I asked the elders if the end was near and they said yes.

  I asked them they can give me a written guarantee that the end will be here by the end of 2008.

  They said no. I said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years. They said no. I said

  how about 20 years and they said they can not guarantee that but the end was near.

  I could stomach the meetings more if evey other 5 minutes there were not comments about how

  close the end is. I have some close friends in the mid 80's and they are in a state of depression.

  My wife doesn't know why they are and I tell her over and over that the old witnesses are depressed

  because they were told that they would not get old and now they know that they are facing death.

  They won't admit they were lied to but in thier hearts they know that they have been mislead.

  This is all too bad and too sad.
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  My Story

  by 38 Years in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  here's my story.

  i tried to shorten it as much as possible.. my family belonged to a baptist church and i was baptized in that church when i was 8 years old.

  i sincerely believed in jesus and the bible then and still do now.

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  Thanks for sharing your story. I have felt the same way as you do for over 20 years.

  I pretend to be a JW and put in fake hours only because of my family. If I did not

  have a family that were JW's I would never set foot in a kingdom hall again.

  Again, thanks for sharing your courage.

  Take care.
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  JW's versus RCC on child abuse

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it really is good news that the news of the recent settlement on the child abuse cases is coming out.

  bad news is that probably 99% of the witnesses will not believe it or put a different spin on it.

  the witnesses are.

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  It really is good news that the news of the recent settlement on the child abuse cases is coming out. The only

  bad news is that probably 99% of the Witnesses will not believe it or put a different spin on it. The Witnesses are

  are still in a state of denial. If you ask a Roman Catholic if there was a problem with child abuse in their church

  they would say yes and it is being dealt with. If you ask a JW the same question they would say no, that is something

  that is a problem that the RCC has. I give Catholics credit for addmitting that there was a problem, their faith

  is strong enough to admit that and they deal with it. JW's will hide their head in the sand and point an accusing

  finger at other religions. If the JW's do admit that there was a settlement, they will not say that it was an admission

  of guilt on the part of the WTBTS but rather a settlement to avoid spending the Lord's money and time on something

  that is was not worth going to court for. An example would be the woman who spilt hot coffee on her at McDonald's,

  got burnt and sued MCDonald's. She won the case because it was settled out of court. McDonald's was not at

  fault and not the blame, it just wasn't worth the time and money to fight the case. I am affraid that no matter how

  much news comes out about the settlement it will roll right off the witnesses back and even if there wasn't a gag

  order and the victims of these hideous crimes could speak out the remarks would be from the witnesses that they

  are just apostates who have turned against Jehovah. It is so difficult being associated with JW's due to family

  concerns while being able to know the truth about the truth.
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  One more newbie, yeiks!

  by wings in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my story as a witness follows much of a 'dumb and dumber' sort of path.

  i get to be both dumb, and dumber, of course.

  what drove me to post on this site was sheer despiration.

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  I just wish that more Witnesses would have the courage like you did to do some

  research on the Web. If you are not an elder, ministerial servant, pioneer, elder's wife,

  you are nothing.
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  What Expressions, Words or Beliefs Are Clearly JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "in the truth" is one.

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  "disfellowshipping" is another.. believing in the "faithful & discreet slave" is another..

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  Soon
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  I always had to chuckle at this

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at circuit and especially district assemblies so many witnesses take.

  notes of what was being said at such a feverish pace that i would ask.

  myself: "what are they hearing that i am not hearing that is so important.

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  At circuit and especially district assemblies so many witnesses take

  notes of what was being said at such a feverish pace that I would ask

  myself: "What are they hearing that I am not hearing that is so important

  or what am I missing?" I am just curious if any one here took notes at

  assemblies and why?
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  Allow me to introduce myself

  by RollerDave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised among the witnesses and left in my early 30's due to a mixture of doctrinal disputes and social isolation.

  my mother and both of my sisters remain within the organization.

  i also have two brothers, one df'd, one who never quite caught the watchtower bug.. my road within the organization was a rocky one that eventually lead to a place where i found myself socially isolated within the congregation as a person simply unfit for fellowship with proper, upright, theocratic people who must cut off all 'worldy' association, suffer the ensueing isolation, and eat humble pie until such a time as they determined i was 'spiritual minded' enough for them to associate with.. baptism was held up as my expected goal, but despite trying, i was never quite good enough for them.

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  TooBad TooSad

  Thanks for the post. Please keep posting.